Very peculiar!
I was able to vote and then realized that I hadn't logged-in! I access this forum from a total of three computers. I was definitely NOT logged in. Hmmm...
Steve
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| Author: | Dave Rector [ Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:15 am ] |
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Michael, please remind me, what is the Jimmy fund? |
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| Author: | sfbrown [ Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:44 pm ] |
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Very peculiar!
I was able to vote and then realized that I hadn't logged-in! I access this forum from a total of three computers. I was definitely NOT logged in. Hmmm... Steve |
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| Author: | Don A [ Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:31 pm ] |
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From a forum viewpoint, I would rather see us go with a foundation that is national rather than regional in scope. An example would be Ronald McDonald House which covers both the US and Canada. However, we should also consider that the same logo problems may pop up with any foundation. |
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:36 am ] |
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I don't get it? Why throw the baby out with the bathwater? Over a logo issue? Certainly Craig and others can be creative enough to come up with something without the logo... Where is St Jude's located? We must have a builder here near the place so we can contact the place directly... |
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| Author: | sfbrown [ Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:49 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Don Williams] I don't get it? Why throw the baby out with the bathwater? Over a logo issue? Certainly Craig and others can be creative enough to come up with something without the logo... Where is St Jude's located? We must have a builder here near the place so we can contact the place directly...[/QUOTE] Don, I have contacted St. Judes directly. This was their official answer. The ban on use, btw, appears to be a relatively new policy. Regards, Steve |
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| Author: | sfbrown [ Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:15 am ] |
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[QUOTE=highdrawlicks] Well, It appears that this is not one of the burning issues of our times. Guess I'll get hold of Craig Lavin and see whether or not he's willing to design something appropriate for the headstock.[/QUOTE] Frankly, it sounds like a winner. Steve |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:24 pm ] |
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I posted in the other thread before I saw this. But I don't think this is a baby/bathwater problem. Clearly they are doing "good work" but that doesn't (or shouldn't) give them the right to be insulting. The RIGHT response for them would have been. "Well... our logo police are a really tough crowd to work with. If you want to use our logo, we will have to connect you with our agency (or whomever) and they will need to work with you on the creative. However if you wanted to use something other than the logo... a shot of our buildings, some of our staff, a scene from one of our locations, etc. that might be easier since the level of red tape we will have to go through will be much easier." It says the same thing... but does it in a way where they look like they actually care about this project, and the time, talent and expense that is being invested. |
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| Author: | Pwoolson [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:06 am ] |
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Here's another idea I've got bouncing around in my head. If you choose to cut bait with St. Jude's there are two organizations that I'm very fond of. Both involve music and I think that's an obvious passion for all of us. The first is Music Lives which is an organization involved in getting/keeping music programs in public schools. The second is Music Rising which is working to get instruments back in musician's hands that lost them in the hurricanes this fall. Both worth looking at. |
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| Author: | Dennis Leahy [ Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:43 am ] |
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Since all I did was to doanate a fingerboard blank, and am not doing any of the work (due to lack of experience), I had not even checked into the charity guitar thread until today. The way I see it, there's the giving and the receiving. I'm confident that whichever very worthy organization on the short list receives the guitar (actually, the money from the sale of the guitar), will be very pleased. So, I would concentrate on making sure that those who are performing a labor of love feel really good about the journey and the giving. Without vindictiveness or negativity of any sort, I would recommend that St. Jude's be put at the bottom of the list of possible recipients, and we should select another organization from the short list. I think this will fortify and nurture the love in the builders that are working the wood into a musical instrument, that will eventually become a pile of money, that will eventually nurture some person(s) in need, so that they will know that they are loved. St. Jude's will survive (and prosper) without this gift, and quite possibly someone in their organization will champion the cause to remedy the situation that caused them to be dropped as the recipient. So, this may actually help St. Jude's and another worthy charity at the same time. If another organization is approached, maybe the offer could be made something like: "a group of talented artisans would like to build a high-quality handbuilt guitar with your logo on the headstock, as a symbol of their goal and as a focus of their compassion. The guitar would be given freely for you to auction..." As a minor participant in this process, I am willing to allow my vote (for the Koman breast cancer organization) to be deleted, and let the builders and people like Bob Cefalu (with the huge donations) be the voting body. A tip of the hat to you all!  I am moved by your compassion.
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:12 am ] |
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The Logo issue is a legal issue that is why I pestered Steve to get in touch with St Judes on the issue. I thought that there may be problemes just doing it. That said I agree with Brock, this is only a small issue. It will be planly be stated on the makers lable that this guitar is built by the contributing luthiers of the Offical Luthiers Forum and donated to St Judes, anyway. Maybe we put "OLF" in some nice pearl or somthning else on the peghead. I am sure Craig will come up with somthing. Let don't get to upset with St Judes lawyers they are doing what they do best. Besides that waists too much energy. Let use that energy and build a guitar. After all that is what we do best 
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